details: 'a debate about rushing'

General information

• name: BNet
• type: Ladder team game (AT/RT)
• host: Battle.net
• saver: Bastard
• 
  map: Mur'gulOasis
• players: 8
• length: 22:56
• speed: Fast
• version: 1.26 W3XP
• replay type: Public
• 
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Players

team 1

(loser)

» 19-300 (teal | 74 APM | 1548 actions | 21:03)

3 Blademaster

2 Wind Walk
1 Critical Strike

4 Shadow Hunter

2 Hex
2 Healing Wave

» actions

Assign group hotkey	69
Basic commands	13
Build / train	67
Enter build submenu	18
Enter hero's abilities submenu	7
Right click	809
Select / deselect	217
Select group hotkey	208
Use ability	140

1548 total

» units

Peon	14
Raider	8
Wind Rider	5

27 total

» upgrades

Ensnare	1
Reinforced Defenses	1
Pillage	1
Armor	1
Envenomed Spears	1
Ranged Weapons	1

6 total

» buildings

Altar of Storms	1
Orc Burrow	4
Voodoo Lounge	2
War Mill	1
Stronghold	1
Watch Tower	7
Beastiary	2
Fortress	1
Spirit Lodge	1

20 total

» build order

00:10 Altar of Storms
00:19 Orc Burrow
00:56 Voodoo Lounge
01:24 Orc Burrow
01:47 War Mill
02:48 Stronghold
03:21 Watch Tower
03:24 Watch Tower
04:20 Watch Tower
06:07 Voodoo Lounge
06:10 Beastiary
06:14 Beastiary
06:33 Orc Burrow
06:36 Orc Burrow
07:11 Fortress
09:14 Watch Tower
09:17 Watch Tower
11:39 Spirit Lodge
11:52 Watch Tower
12:05 Watch Tower

» items

Healing Salve	5
Lesser Clarity Potion	7
Boots of Speed	1
Staff of Teleportation	1
Scroll of Speed	2
Scroll of Town Portal	1
Orb of Lightning	1

18 total

» pucc_lover (pink | 47 APM | 992 actions | 21:00)

5 Mountain King

2 Storm Bolt
3 Bash

» actions

Basic commands	5
Build / train	73
Enter build submenu	18
Enter hero's abilities submenu	5
Give item / drop item	2
Right click	512
Select / deselect	314
Use ability	63

992 total

» units

Peasant	20
Footman	10
Knight	12
Priest	3

45 total

» upgrades

Plating	3
Lumber Harvesting	2
Swords	2
Priest Training	2
Animal War Training	1
Magic Sentry	1

11 total

» buildings

Altar of Kings	1
Farm	11
Barracks	2
Keep	1
Lumber Mill	1
Blacksmith	1
Arcane Vault	1
Scout Tower	9
Castle	1
Arcane Sanctum	1
Guard Tower	2

31 total

» build order

00:04 Altar of Kings
00:08 Farm
00:39 Barracks
01:19 Farm
02:24 Keep
02:30 Farm
02:35 Lumber Mill
02:54 Blacksmith
03:08 Arcane Vault
03:16 Barracks
04:17 Farm
04:19 Farm
04:20 Farm
05:07 Scout Tower
05:33 Farm
06:03 Castle
06:46 Arcane Sanctum
08:01 Farm
08:02 Farm
08:03 Farm
09:56 Farm
11:44 Scout Tower
11:45 Scout Tower
11:45 Scout Tower
12:52 Scout Tower
12:53 Scout Tower
13:26 Scout Tower
13:28 Scout Tower
13:30 Scout Tower
14:31 Guard Tower
15:34 Guard Tower

» items

Scroll of Regeneration	3
Scroll of Town Portal	2
Lesser Clarity Potion	1
Potion of Healing	1

7 total

G4err (blue | 34 APM | 781 actions | 22:54)

4 Blademaster

2 Wind Walk
2 Critical Strike

» actions

Basic commands	7
Build / train	27
Enter build submenu	12
Enter hero's abilities submenu	4
Give item / drop item	2
Right click	481
Select / deselect	198
Use ability	49

781 total

» units

Peon

13

13 total

» buildings

Altar of Storms	1
Orc Burrow	2
War Mill	1
Voodoo Lounge	1
Watch Tower	7

12 total

» build order

00:08 Altar of Storms
00:12 Orc Burrow
02:04 War Mill
02:09 Orc Burrow
04:01 Voodoo Lounge
04:06 Watch Tower
05:22 Watch Tower
05:26 Watch Tower
06:30 Watch Tower
06:32 Watch Tower
07:37 Watch Tower
07:40 Watch Tower

» items

Healing Salve	2
Lesser Clarity Potion	3
Staff of Teleportation	1
Potion of Mana	1
Orb of Fire	1
Potion of Healing	1

9 total

» tonymontana57 (red | 26 APM | 557 actions | 21:03)

4 Death Knight

2 Death Coil
2 Unholy Aura

1 Lich

1 Frost Nova

» actions

Build / train	55
Enter build submenu	27
Enter hero's abilities submenu	5
Remove unit from queue	1
Right click	210
Select / deselect	220
Use ability	39

557 total

» units

Acolyte	17
Ghoul	4
Crypt Fiend	9
Frost Wyrm	5

35 total

» upgrades

Creature Attack	1
Creature Carapace	1
Freezing Breath	1
Web	1

4 total

» buildings

Altar of Darkness	1
Ziggurat	10
Crypt	2
Graveyard	1
Tomb of Relics	1
Halls of the Dead	1
Black Citadel	1
Sacrificial Pit	2
Nerubian Tower	1
Spirit Tower	4
Boneyard	3

27 total

» build order

00:12 Altar of Darkness
00:17 Ziggurat
00:41 Crypt
00:49 Crypt
01:04 Graveyard
01:28 Ziggurat
01:42 Tomb of Relics
02:50 Ziggurat
05:31 Halls of the Dead
07:33 Ziggurat
07:37 Ziggurat
08:00 Black Citadel
08:17 Sacrificial Pit
08:31 Nerubian Tower
08:33 Spirit Tower
09:42 Ziggurat
09:51 Ziggurat
10:25 Ziggurat
10:34 Ziggurat
10:48 Sacrificial Pit
11:03 Ziggurat
11:21 Spirit Tower
11:28 Spirit Tower
11:32 Spirit Tower
11:36 Boneyard
11:40 Boneyard
11:48 Boneyard

» items

Scroll of Town Portal

1

1 total

team 2

(winner)

Messi_kaka (orange | 54 APM | 1240 actions | 22:54)

1 Archmage

1 Summon Water Elemental

3 Mountain King

2 Storm Bolt
1 Bash

» actions

Build / train	68
Enter build submenu	25
Enter hero's abilities submenu	4
Give item / drop item	1
Right click	706
Select / deselect	375
Use ability	60

1240 total

» units

Peasant	12
Footman	14
Knight	5
Flying Machine	11

42 total

» upgrades

Defend	1
Lumber Harvesting	1
Plating	2
Swords	1
Animal War Training	1
Flak Cannons	1
Gunpowder	1

8 total

» buildings

Barracks	2
Altar of Kings	1
Farm	10
Keep	1
Arcane Vault	2
Lumber Mill	1
Blacksmith	1
Castle	1
Scout Tower	3
Arcane Tower	1
Guard Tower	1
Workshop	3

27 total

» build order

00:16 Barracks
00:21 Altar of Kings
00:31 Farm
01:21 Farm
02:03 Barracks
02:16 Farm
02:56 Farm
03:46 Farm
05:17 Keep
05:54 Arcane Vault
06:11 Lumber Mill
07:15 Blacksmith
09:13 Castle
10:18 Farm
10:24 Farm
11:10 Farm
11:53 Farm
12:42 Farm
13:35 Arcane Vault
15:26 Scout Tower
16:43 Scout Tower
16:57 Scout Tower
16:59 Arcane Tower
17:15 Guard Tower
20:33 Workshop
20:56 Workshop
21:03 Workshop

» items

Rod of Necromancy	1
Dust of Appearance	3
Scroll of Regeneration	1
Potion of Lesser Invulnerability	1
Potion of Invisibility	1

7 total

suck.bang.blow. (yellow | 42 APM | 957 actions | 22:55)

8 Far Seer

3 Feral Spirit
3 Chain Lighting
1 Earth Quake
1 Far Sight

» actions

Assign group hotkey	3
Build / train	72
Enter build submenu	17
Enter hero's abilities submenu	8
Give item / drop item	1
Right click	337
Select / deselect	359
Select group hotkey	78
Use ability	82

957 total

» units

Peon	9
Grunt	5
Troll Headhunter/Berserker	12
Troll Witch Doctor	5
Shaman	5
Demolisher	1

37 total

» upgrades

Pillage	1
Ranged Weapons	3
Armor	2
Troll Regeneration	1
Spiked Barricades	2
Witch Doctor Training	2
Berserker Upgrade	1
Reinforced Defenses	1
Shaman Training	2
Burning Oil	1

16 total

» buildings

Orc Burrow	7
Barracks	1
Altar of Storms	1
Voodoo Lounge	1
War Mill	1
Stronghold	1
Spirit Lodge	2
Fortress	1
Watch Tower	4

19 total

» build order

00:14 Orc Burrow
00:39 Barracks
01:09 Altar of Storms
01:27 Orc Burrow
02:31 Voodoo Lounge
04:05 War Mill
05:12 Stronghold
05:15 Orc Burrow
06:38 Orc Burrow
07:36 Spirit Lodge
08:16 Fortress
08:36 Orc Burrow
11:01 Spirit Lodge
14:41 Orc Burrow
18:34 Orc Burrow
19:02 Watch Tower
19:04 Watch Tower
21:41 Watch Tower
21:43 Watch Tower

» items

Healing Salve	3
Scroll of Speed	1
Lesser Clarity Potion	1
Scroll of Town Portal	1
Orb of Lightning	1
Potion of Healing	1

8 total

» fern (green | 47 APM | 1084 actions | 22:55)

5 Dreadlord

3 Vampiric Aura
2 Sleep

1 Death Knight

1 Death Coil

» actions

Basic commands	113
Build / train	54
Enter build submenu	20
Enter hero's abilities submenu	6
Right click	463
Select / deselect	384
Use ability	43

1084 total

» units

Acolyte	7
Ghoul	7
Crypt Fiend	11
Obsidian Statue	2
Meatwagon	1
Frost Wyrm	3

31 total

» upgrades

Creature Attack	3
Creature Carapace	3
Web	1
Freezing Breath	1

8 total

» buildings

Graveyard	1
Crypt	1
Altar of Darkness	1
Ziggurat	8
Tomb of Relics	1
Spirit Tower	4
Halls of the Dead	1
Slaughterhouse	1
Black Citadel	1
Sacrificial Pit	1
Boneyard	1

21 total

» build order

00:56 Graveyard
01:00 Crypt
01:02 Altar of Darkness
01:07 Ziggurat
01:25 Ziggurat
01:46 Tomb of Relics
02:19 Ziggurat
02:38 Spirit Tower
04:29 Spirit Tower
05:58 Spirit Tower
06:02 Ziggurat
06:27 Halls of the Dead
08:55 Slaughterhouse
09:17 Black Citadel
09:48 Ziggurat
09:55 Sacrificial Pit
15:22 Boneyard
17:51 Ziggurat
17:54 Ziggurat
17:58 Spirit Tower
19:11 Ziggurat

» items

Rod of Necromancy

1

1 total

Bastard (purple | 54 APM | 1234 actions | 22:56)

8 Blood Mage

3 Flame Strike
2 Siphon Mana
1 Summon Phoenix
2 Banish

» actions

Assign group hotkey	52
Basic commands	22
Build / train	85
Enter build submenu	48
Enter hero's abilities submenu	8
Give item / drop item	2
Right click	479
Select / deselect	286
Select group hotkey	115
Use ability	137

1234 total

» units

Peasant	10
Footman	4
Sorceress	2
Gryphon Rider	8

24 total

» upgrades

Lumber Harvesting	1
Masonry	2
Sorceress Training	1
Magic Sentry	1
Swords	1
Armor	1
Animal War Training	1

8 total

» buildings

Altar of Kings	1
Barracks	1
Farm	7
Scout Tower	27
Arcane Tower	1
Arcane Vault	2
Keep	1
Lumber Mill	1
Arcane Sanctum	1
Guard Tower	9
Castle	1
Gryphon Aviary	3
Blacksmith	2
Town Hall	1

58 total

» build order

00:36 Altar of Kings
00:50 Barracks
00:53 Farm
00:55 Farm
01:07 Farm
02:01 Farm
02:03 Scout Tower
02:34 Arcane Tower
03:06 Arcane Vault
03:29 Keep
04:16 Lumber Mill
05:40 Scout Tower
05:41 Scout Tower
05:42 Scout Tower
05:46 Scout Tower
05:48 Scout Tower
05:52 Arcane Sanctum
06:22 Guard Tower
08:06 Scout Tower
08:09 Scout Tower
08:10 Scout Tower
09:29 Guard Tower
09:33 Castle
10:41 Scout Tower
10:42 Scout Tower
10:42 Scout Tower
10:44 Gryphon Aviary
11:46 Gryphon Aviary
11:48 Gryphon Aviary
12:43 Guard Tower
13:18 Farm
13:19 Farm
15:28 Farm
18:01 Blacksmith
18:03 Blacksmith
20:10 Scout Tower
20:11 Scout Tower
20:13 Scout Tower
20:14 Scout Tower
20:16 Scout Tower
20:43 Guard Tower
20:46 Guard Tower
20:46 Guard Tower
20:46 Guard Tower
20:50 Town Hall
21:06 Scout Tower
21:07 Scout Tower
21:07 Scout Tower
21:08 Scout Tower
21:11 Scout Tower
21:21 Scout Tower
21:22 Scout Tower
21:22 Scout Tower
21:23 Scout Tower
21:26 Scout Tower
21:39 Arcane Vault
22:46 Guard Tower

» items

Scroll of Regeneration	6
Lesser Clarity Potion	3
Potion of Mana	5
Boots of Speed	1
Potion of Invisibility	4
Staff of Teleportation	1
Potion of Healing	6
Scroll of Town Portal	5
Potion of Lesser Invulnerability	1

32 total

Chat log

(00:07 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: masss rush
(00:11 / Allies) Messi_kaka: ok
(00:13 / Allies) fern: k
(00:16 / Allies) Bastard: no
(00:16 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: fs grunts
(00:23 / Allies) Messi_kaka: yes
(00:24 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: meet at well
(00:26 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: fuck him
(00:28 / Allies) Bastard: You guys can rush I'm not
(00:29 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: no pay attention
(00:34 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: go play solo scrub
(00:42 / Allies) Messi_kaka: why not
(00:55 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: who cares
(00:56 / Allies) Messi_kaka: no reason not to
(01:04 / Allies) Bastard: yeah because "rush" is the only strategy for team games
(01:10 / Allies) Messi_kaka: noo
(01:12 / Allies) fern: this is a rush map
(01:14 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: no but when 3 out of 4 do it
(01:15 / Allies) Messi_kaka: but we have a consensus
(01:16 / Allies) Bastard: because it's boring and I don't care about record, idiot
(01:17 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: dumb fuck
(01:24 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: fuck off tool
(01:25 / Allies) Bastard: So it's not a democracy
(01:35 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: meet at well
(01:36 / Allies) Messi_kaka: its jus fun to win
(01:41 / Allies) Bastard: mmhmm
(01:45 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: talkin to a clown oj
(01:50 / Allies) Bastard: win a 10 minute game with no skill
(01:53 / Allies) Bastard: just mass tier 1
(01:54 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: just wsting your time
(02:13 / Allies) Messi_kaka: there is skill
(02:17 / Allies) Bastard: No there isn't
(02:17 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: your a fuckin idiot
(02:27 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: dudes a rock
(02:41 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: oj stop talin to him were all getting dumber
(02:47 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: fucking dude has no sense
(02:59 / Allies) Messi_kaka: need him to win
(03:09 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: blue techs played with him earlier
(03:25 / Allies) Messi_kaka: hit teal nooww
(03:45 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: green comwe
(03:56 / Allies) fern: hitting teal?
(03:59 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: yes

(05:43 / Allies) Messi_kaka: b
(06:31 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: both orc tech

(08:15 / Allies) fern: raider
(09:07 / Allies) Bastard: b

(11:57 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: fuck knights
(12:38 / All) Bastard: Hehe
(12:55 / All) G4err: you use staff of teleportation
(13:02 / All) Bastard: Nop
(13:02 / All) G4err: and an robot animal
(13:05 / All) G4err: yes
(13:12 / All) G4err: or invis
(13:17 / Allies) fern: orange your base is gonna die
(13:55 / Allies) Bastard: gold?
(13:59 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: for?
(14:02 / Allies) Bastard: griffs

(15:03 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: purp own pink base no towwer
(15:46 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: sjhit sorry gys]
(15:49 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: didnt know that was all you
(16:05 / Allies) fern: run orange

(17:05 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: lvl 7
(17:09 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: lol
(17:11 / Allies) fern: teals coming
(17:29 / Allies) suck.bang.blow.: go back to pink
(18:02 / All) G4err: blood elf mage is op
(18:37 / All) 19-300: 3v4 gg
(18:47 / Allies) Messi_kaka: atk or tp

(20:06 / Allies) Messi_kaka: ty
(20:06 / Allies) Bastard: golds
(20:41 / All) pucc_lover: gg
(20:45 / All) suck.bang.blow.: gg